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deleting them so more voice mails could come in leading the family to think she might still be alive. what a remarkable story. chris christy, thanks very much. i know your coverage of markets on the other side of the world will continue later on and our coverage on cnn continues right now. that's it forcall." "american morning" starts right now. i'm christine romans. let's get you caught up on what's happening. today could be get out of jail day for casey anthony. one of the there jurors who acquitted anthony of murder is breaking her styilence about th verdict. a chilling warning about u.s. security officials that terrorists could try surgically implanting explosives inside of human attackers to try to take down commercial airlines. the al qaeda member that could be masterminding that plan ahead. >> i'm ali velshi. president obama hoping to narrow the partisan divide over raising the debt ceiling. today he will host a high-stakes summit just as new details emerge of what could be a come
prom nice the battle over cutting the nation's debt on this "american morning." good morning. welcome to "american morning." it is thursday, july 7. another bombshell in the aftermath of the casey anthony verdict this morning. she will be sentenced today. in just three hours we could see her walk out of that courtroom. she could be sentenced for lying to police in the investigation of her daughter, caylee's death. but most agree that it would likely be time served and that she could walk out of court a free woman today. >> this morning anthony is facing a new legal challenge. one of the jurors who acquitted her of murder is speaking out for the first time about why they reached the stunning verdict. cnn's david mattingly is live in orlando. >> reporter: good morning. this case was wrapped up quickly. the jury reached a decision in a matter of hours and not days before finding out now that it was not an easy decision to
make. >> we the jury find the defendant not guilty. >> reporter: two days after the surprising verdict we are now getting a better look at what transpired in the courtroom with various players speaking out. including juror number three who spoke, abc news. >> i mean, there were quite a few people when we got back after the verdict was read, we were in tears. >> reporter: jennifer said it was a horrible decision to have to make, not guilty doesn't mean innocent. but ultimately she says it was the prosecution's lack of evidence that led to the jury acquitting casey anthony. >> how did she die? if you are going to charge? one with murder don't you have to know how they killed someone or why they may have killed someone or have something where, when, why, how? those are important questions p that were not answered. >> reporter: lead prosecutor jeff ashton told beth about karas object "in session" his team felt they did everything they could in presenting the case. >> the idea that somebody would put duct tape on a child after they were dead, to me, just makes so little sense that it
left only the possibility of the tape being used to kill caylee. i didn't think there was any other reasonable explanation. >> reporter: jose baez, lead defense attorney, told abc news that the prosecution's mistake was charging casey anthony with first-degree murder. >> they have the power to charge anyone for any charge that they feel they can prove. so if they are going to bring it they better be able to prove it. >> reporter: baez said casey is misunderstood and he is afraid for her safety once she's free. >> i think casey can -- could have been anything she wanted in this world. and i think there are still plenty of things casey can do in life. i think that casey can be a productive member of society. >> reporter: jose baez says he will be asking the judge for casey anthony's release today. we will see what happens.
in the meantime the state of florida is going to be looking for some payback. they are going to be asking casey anthony to reimburse the orange county sheriff's department for cost of the investigation. they don't know how much it is at this point. they are going to have a hearing sometime in the near future to determine how much she owes for this investigation. >> david, thanks very much. the developments here never seem to stop. we will be following that very closely. >> right. this juror number three suggesting that they wanted to convict casey but that there wasn't enough evidence. i didn't say i thought she was innocent. our question of the day, what should happen to casey anthony now? send us an e-mail, tweet, tell us on face book and we will read some of your thoughts later in the show. prosecutors here in new york say that they are not ready to drop the sex assault case against dominique strass-kahn. they met yesterday with the lawyers for the former head of the international monetary fund.
defense attorneys describe the meeting as constructive. at the same time, the manhattan district attorney says that he will not recuse himself from prosecuting this case. the alleged victim's lawyer yesterday asked the d.a. to step aside because of how his office has handled the case so far. here is a chilling thought. terrorists targeting commercial airplanes by surgically implanting explosives inside their own bodies. u.s. security officials tell cnn they have fresh intelligence suggesting al qaeda is considering using human bombs. there's no specific threat but we are told that a key suspect in these efforts is asira, a bomb making mastermind for al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. > we have seen this in the latest evolution of what terrorist groups are trying to do to circumvent our security layers and to perhaps defeat our society's norms. >> syria is believed to have
planned the underwear bombing of a northwest airlines jet over detroit on christmas day in 2009. a hiker in yellowstone national park is mauled and killed by a grizzly bear. the park says that the hiker and his wife surprised a female bear who perceive ad threat to her cubs and attacked president another nearby group of hikers heard the wife screaming for help and called 911. the woman also reportedly told park officials she survived despite being chased by the bear and actually lifted in the air by her backpack. grizzly attacks are rare inside of the park. it was the first deadly bear attack on park grounds since 1986. this morning tiny hints of what a potential deal could look like in the battle over raising the debt ceiling. cnn learning president obama wants $3 trillion to $4 trillion cuts to happen over the next decade. a move requiring some cuts to medicare and social security. the news coming just hours before leaders from both parties
go to the white house for high-stakes talks with the president. brianna keilar live from the white house. some movement. >> yes, perhaps ali velshi can stop joking about banging his head against the wallace we heard him talking about yesterday when they releae were in the same place. the talks going on, the president, democrats, republicans, they were looking at cuts from $2 trillion to $4 trillion. republicans want more in cuts. then we heard their maybe it was actually we heard from some republicans sources it was actually closer to $1 trillion cuts that democrats had actually agreed to so far because a lot of the details have been low. this is significant. president obama, according to democratic sources familiar with the negotiations, really aiming high here, $3 trillion to $4 trillion onin cuts. that would mean a lot of changes, social security, medicare, medicaid.
defense spending on the table and tax reform. it is quite a big undertaking considering there isn't a lot of time left but certainly some movement that we have seen since yesterday, guy. >> any specifics? i think important people who are listening to the process of what's happening in washington, what this means for people over a longer period of time is fewer services and smaller government and maybe higher taxes or higher cost of living your life as the services go away. i mean, all of these have amazing and long lasting ramifications for how we live our lives. my specifics? >> huge long -- no. honestly in terms of the specific, i mean, we can talk generally about where the cuts would come from, entitlements, defense spending, you can see how that would affect different people and the nation as a whole. specifics, no, i think we are going to be getting, obviously, more details on that to come. let's just take a look at some of the things that some of the folks who are coming here to the white house are going to demand because, remember, president obama is hosting eight members of congress, top two democrats
and top two republicans in the house and senate today. some of the big negotiations, i think the real big players here, everyone knows this, president obama and house speaker john boehner. boehner will come with his deputy eric cantor and things they have been demanding no tax increases. this is what they have said and what the impasse has been over. however, here is a change from yesterday. the majority leader eric cantor indicating that he would be open to closing tax loopholes if her offset by tax cuts. we will see where that goes. house democrats because the sense is there will be votes needed from house republicans and the house democrats in order to get this passed. they said they want some tax increases and want to close tax loopholes because what they want is balanced approach we heard president obama say this, everyone is going to have to make sacrifices, as you said. democrats are demanding that it is not just in their words the poor and the elderly. they want to make sure it is balanced with corporations and wealthy americans making sacrifices as well.
>> dick durbin was talking yesterday about the mortgage interest deduction. the sacred cows and trying to figure out where they are going to raise money. than appeals court will hear arguments about whether the p forced medication of loughner should be continued. it was temporarily halted until the three-judge panel can hear arguments. the argument is arguing the meds are necessary because he pose as threats to others. he has chone chairs at doctors, spit on his attorney. the u.s. attorney on the case says loughner has been diagnosed as a schizophrenic and needs the medication. loughner's attorneys say he should be receiving a milder tranquillizer. one of six marines injured in a military helicopter crash has died. the chopper went down yesterday in a section of camp pendleton in southern california. five other marines are recovering at local hospitals. military officials are investigating the cause of the chopper death.
ft. food shooting suspect nadal hassan could be found guilty. announcing the charges against hassan will be tried as capital offenses. hay is accused of killing 13 people and wounding 32 others at ft. hood, texas in 2009. federal appeals court ordered the u.s. government to immediately stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell. the pentagon is already in the process of repealing that law, that law that bans guy gay service members from serving openly and military officials suggest changes are needed to eliminate the policy and could be finished in just a few weeks. right out of the gate. we have injuries at the running of the bulls. the annual festival, again, few hours ago in spain, the red cross says one runner was already hospitalized. several took hard pauls and were trampled. the bulls will be unleashed every morning at 8:00 a.m. sharp spanish time for the next week. so shocking. run around with several hundred animals and you get hurt. >> yeah.
>> i think that's the whole point of the. >> definitely one of the more fascinating things. interesting to watch but i would not want to be in front p one of the bulls. he walked into an art gallery and walked out the front door with a $200,000 picasso under his arm. >> this is crazy. search for a very bold art thief. shouldn't they secure that thing better? >> cue the pink panther music. >> this was taken -- a video taken from a diner across the road. that's why he wasn't acting suspicious. good shot of him. you think we could find him. tabloid phone hacking scandal getting more serious. allege victims, politicians to families of bombing victims. 12 minutes past the hour. hey, the new guy is loaded with protein!
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looking for a thief that walked out with a picasso. >> stop him. >> a nearby restaurant him on -- i'm not laughing. it is a thief. they caught him on their surveillance camera. it is a 1965 pencil drawing. i don't understand why it wouldn't have been more secure in will. it is an art gallery. they have a lot of those pencil drawings and those ink drawings. they are against the walls. >> art galleries known for their security. this should not be that easy to walk out -- >> if this guy does not have a receipt for that painting he's gone. >> is it for sale? a receipt? i'm sorry, i thought this was the gift shop at the art gallery. you didn't get my credit card information? >> all right. listen, this story is gaining traction. tabloid phone hacking scandal. an old story but new development.
journalists from a british newspaper, news of the world, owned by news corporation, are accused of breaking into the voice mails of celebrities and politicians you probably heard this, even relatives of the london transit bombing victims. >> right. the reasoning behind this is they are trying to get a leg up on the competition, finding scoop. but may have taken it too far. at least that's what they are accused of. companies are pulling ads and even prime minister is calling for an investigation into this hacking scandal. >> victims, terrorist victims, had their phones hacked, is quite disgraceful. that's why it is important there is a full police investigation with all of the powers that they need. >> a lot of this has developed because after story about a girl who went missing. they allegedly hacked into her voice mails and problem is her parents have been trying to get her, voice mails were -- voice mail was full-by by checking them, they want mord messages, they were deleting them, leading the family to believe she was
alive. >> dan has been cover thing outside of 10 downing street. it is very unusual, right, for the prime minister to get involved in something like this? he seemed very angry yesterday in parliament. >> yes. i mean, the political move here is stormy as weather is right now. this is decree eight i creatings here. it has been ratcheted up here because of the revelations that first of all, 13-year-old murdered school girl's phone was hack flood by these tabloid journalists. now it is getting even wider. they are saying that families of the victims of the transit bombings here which happened six years ago today, their phones were also hacked into as these tabloid journalists tried to get salacious stories from these families who were grieving for their lost loved ones. let's start with one reaction from one of those fathers. >> the thought that somebody may
well have been listening to me begging for david to phone home was very difficult. and i thought we were in a dark place but i didn't think anybody could make it darker but i'm sadly proven wrong. >> not only are the victims of terrorists attacks and victims of murder possible victims in this famed hacking scandal, but also people, soldiers that died in afghanistan. their families' phones are also alleged to have been hacked into. this is getting bigger and bigger every day. it is creating a massive fuss here in the uk. >> it is quite an -- extending here, obviously. there are a lot of major companies as you mentioned that are saying we are pulling our ads until we find out what this is. others said weigh will wait million it is settled before we rush to judgment. it is having an influence on the parent company. thank you very much. we will stay on top of this sto story. reynolds wolf in text treatment weather center. what's it looking like in the united states? >> it depends where you happen
to be. towards the west coast, conditions should be nice. relatively dry. get to the pacific northwest and it will be a of sphere storms across portions of the midwest including missouri and perhaps even into parts of northern and central arkansas. little rock, into the afternoon. flight delays a possibility there. athlete is going to continue for parts of texas. just relentless stuff. we are looking at highs in dallas, going up to 103 for today. houston, 97. high humidity will make it feel much warmer. 86 in minneapolis. 95 in billings and 87 in salt lake city. 69 in san francisco. back out towards the east, new york, and also boston, mid to upper 80s. 95 in washington, d.c. chance of thunderstorms and 88 in tampa. in terms of your delays, we got this for you. you can expect them to pop up in atlanta and raleigh and maim. also memphis and st. louis as we wrap things up. thunderstorms may keep grounded for an hour in salt lake city. san francisco, look for the fog to give you a few issues through about mid morning. it should be gone by, say, noon.
let's send it back to you in new york. >> thank you. good to talk to you. we will check in with you later on. >> still ahead, hear why the obama administration wants to stop the execution of a man who murdered a 16ier old girl. >> like an all-star roster from baseball so-called steroids era, some of the greatest home run hitters of all time, all of them on the list of potential witnesses in the roger clemens perjury trial. an update for you. 21 minutes past the hour.
morning. stocks recovered from early losses closing higher yesterday. rate now u.s. stock futures are up slightly so far. investors are waiting for economic reports on jobs and payroll and they are coming out before the bell. law makers from both sides of the aisle are heading to the white house today for negotiations on the nation's debt ceiling. congress can't come to a deal on the deficit by august 2. treasury says it may not be able to pay all of its bills. facebook's awesome announcement yesterday was a deal with skype for video chatting. the social network kicked off what it is calling a launching season. an event in palo alto yesterday. ceo mark zuckerberg says more new products will be coming out soon. morgue ann stanley lost two cds with personal position for $34,000 of its investor clients. at risk social security mums, personal income, as well as account and tax i.d. numbers. a law allowing companies to automatically enroll employees in 401(k) plans may not be so
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29 minutes after the hour. checking the top stories. casey anthony goes back to court today but could leave a free woman. one of the jurors who voted to acquit anthony of murder says they were sick to their stomachs about it but there wasn't enough evidence to convict her. later today, a federal appeals court will hear arguments about whether prison officials can forcibly administer medications
to jerrod lee loughner. loughner's defense argue it is accused tucson shooters' rights are being violated by treating him with drugs against his will. the government argues it is necessary because loughner is dangerous to others. cnn learning president obama wants $3 trillion to $4 trillion in deficit cuts over the next decade. it is a move to force democrats to enforce major changes to medicare and social security. news comes as top democrats and republican lawmakers head to the white house to negotiate a debt ceiling deal. troops are marching towards tripoli this morning after capturing a town from government forces just 30 miles from the libyan capital. the rebels are reportedly -- rocket attacks and russian tanks yesterday to overrun the town. it has been under moammar gadhafi's control since the libyan uprising began in february. nato confirming air strikes against the libyan government refueling equipment. those attacks yesterday intended to degrade logistical support for gadhafi's troops. a mexican man scheduled to
be executed in texas today for the rape and murder after 16-year-old girl back in 1994. but his lawyers, mexican government, and the obama administration want the execution put on hold. that's because when the man was arrested, police did not inform him that he had the right under an international treaty to seek legal assistance from the mexican government. his lawyers claim if he had he might never have been convicted. the administration is concerned that if texas does not respect the treaty, americans arrested abroad could be affect. >> we could face reciprocal denial of access for our consular officials when american citizens find themselves arrested or detained overseas. >> texas remains adamant no foreign court or u.s. president will tell the state how to conduct its legal proceedings. jury selection sunday way in the perjury trial of roger clemens. he's accused of lying under oath
to a house commitly good 2008 when he denied ever using illegal mark performance enhancing drugs. the prosecution and the defense listed an all-star roster potential witnesses including barry bonds, mark ma geyer, sammy sosa, and jose canseco. in south korea preparations begin today after the city of pyeongchang was voted to host the 2018 olympics. south korea never host ad winter olympics. the seoul had the summer games in 1998. >> excite when they hit that. buildup and infrastructure build got into it. i remember seoul so well. it was huge summer olympics. it is interesting they are getting it again. >> the thing about -- i love it when cities i never heard about get it. i know where london is.
>> ydo you know where annecy is? i was a french major. a lot of useful information for me, too. less than 29 hours, the world will witness the final launch of the space shuttle. >> this is interesting. this is obviously -- everyone will be watching. they are taking their place in history. however, 70% chance now that it is a no-go for friday. >> look over my right shoulder and you can see why. all those clouds and all around us, big clouds from that storm system, tropical system that came up out of the caribbean yesterday. so -- no. it does not look good. you know, it is interesting about this crew is that -- they were never really supposed to be flying this last mission. this flight was added because
nasa decided they really needed to get a bunch of supplies up to the space station. this was the launch on need vehicle and then -- then, as i said, nasa decided we are going to go ahead and fly this flight. we might as well restock the space station with as much stuff as we can. so -- that is how this crew ended up to be the final four. you guys are going to be the last shuttle flight. what's going through your mind and going oh, man, you know -- why me? or is it like this -- >> kind of like being at disnip land late at might and thinking am i going to get to the front of the ride before the ride closes? am i going get to -- cut off at the end. we finally got assigned to the flight. wow, you know. we squeaked by the to realize that this -- you know, probably will be the last space shuttle mission ever, really felt like an honor to be part of it. >> we want to make sure we get the job done. and when the job is done, we can
look back and reflect and think about where the place in history lie force this final shuttle flight. >> the crew, getting their last looks at the space station complex. >> we have more transfer and logistic supplies to send the station than we ever had on any other mission. we are very, very busy in training. it is very -- it is a very challenging mission. >> you represent thousands of workers for 30 years towards -- poured their heart and soul into these vehicles. >> exactly right. >> you are representing them on the final flight. >> it is -- i think that's where i feel the most pressure to be able to represent them the way they deserve to be represented. and -- finish out the program on a high note with a successful mission. and then be able to thank them all afterwards. ideal. >> reporter: would you stay the shuttle program has been a success? >> i think at times it is the -- hate to use a cliche but sometimes has been the rodney
dangerfield of the space program over the years. and it is the amount of payload it can take to orbit and the amount of paydirt it can bring back. seven people on top of that. where else have we seen that in the space program? >> reporter: you know, i -- did that interview and i talked to commander ferguson and he said to me, you know what, he said i am bound and determined to be the last person out of the space shut whl they finally have stop at landing stop not too far from here. an interesting caveat to all of that the reason they are only p flying four people is because if there was an emergency declared on the way to the space station, but they could get to the space station, they -- it would take a year of flights to get the crew downpour the course of a year. that's why only a four as opposed to seven because will wouldn't be enough supplies on the station. >> got it.
after this show, john, i'm getting on a plane and coming down to hang out with you. either we will be watching a launch tomorrow morning or meet eating a lot of chicken wings in florida. but you and me. >> you got it. >> all right. i'm going to talk about things john knows about. maybe some of you may not. as nasa prepares to launch last space shuttle mission, let's take a look back at the history of space programs starting with this one. project mercury. you may remember this. it ran from 1958 to 1963. these were single man crews. total of six pilots. remember the name alan shepherd. the first american in space. he was the commander of freedom seven. that was the first suborbital plight. john glenn was the commander of friendship which was the first to orbit the earth. next project called gemini. it ran from 1962 to 1966. difference here, two-man crews and it ran a total of ten missions. the gemini missions were the
first manned spacecraft to include an onboard computer. it was also, by the way, during project gemini the first american astronaut walked in space. one that really people remember very well is the apollo program that ran from 1961 to 1975. it overlapped with gemini. these are three -- man crew was total of 11 successful missions, six of them land order the moon. launch vehicles used to power missions included the saturn five rockets which were the tallest, heaviest and most powerful rockets ever launched. until then the spaceships had been fairly small and rock wrets not all that big either. 30 years after the -- that you are now seeing the end of the shuttle program. this is going to be "atlantis." mission 135. it is going to be taking off here and at some point we hope that it is scheduled for tomorrow 1, 1:26. i don't know whether it is going to happen because of that weather. >> yes.
70% chance there if not they will try for saturday. if not window on sunday. it will take off. mother nature will hold all the cards. >> do you have the rocket take off next to you? here we go. there it goes. ali will be down there as well as anderson cooper who will be hosting a special. >> who are the most bankable women in hollywood? angelina jolie and sarah jessica parker are tied at the top of the annual "forbes" list of highest paid actresses. each star earning $30 million in the past year. reese witherspoon and jennifer aniston tied at $28 million each. followed by julia roberts and kristin stewart each with $20 million. >> i love how they are both wearing green dresses. >> i read an article with sarah jessica parker, she is afraid of losing her money because she grew up poor. every dollar she gets is precious to her.
she is very conservative how she spends it. >> that's not what you would associate with her. >> all of her glam and all that. >> sarah jessica p parker. the newlyweds -- newlywed roylgs are wrapping up their visit to canada and heading south. they are heading to los angeles. they are going to be doing a big tour of california. and we are, of course, awaiting the royal visit. it will be kate's first visit to the united states.
it is already here. the duke and duchess of cambridge tomorrow arrive in southern california for a three-day visit. >> but first, prince william and his new bride, catherine, have to wrap up their sweeping tour of canada. calgary this morning. >> one of the funnieest placingo be. >> yesterday they were shooting hockey pucks. >> they are doing whatever they are supposed to be doing -- >> enjoying themselves and people seem to be thrilled to
have them there. >> translation is calgary is canada's cowboy country, isn't it? >> absolutely. they will take place in a white hatting ceremony. they will go to see colorful events. they will start a chuck wagon race and lassoing, bull riding. very colorful day important royals. they have managed to fit an awful lot in over the past week. the cambridges hit canada. 300,000 people turned out to catch a glimpse of the couple during canada day celebrations in ottawa. the hats have everyone talking. one newspaper declareded kate mania. the question was will they get the same reaction in montreal. catherine will get the flip side to royalty.
anti-monarchy protesters boo and shouting. william and catherine fans as well. more protesters expected the next day in quebec city. as you can see the crowds are being kept at a safe distance. on the rooftop security everywhere. small but very vocal crowd of anti-monarchists are here. the prince is here to inspect the royal 22 regimen. crucially making a speech entirely in french. [ speaking french ] >> reporter: the couple went on an impromptu walk-about and it went down well. on prince edward island the action prince. search and rescue pilots land ad helicopter on water. risky maneuver only allowed in canada. then a dragon boat race, duke padding furiously one boat. beating his wife's team. butches struggled. then it was out to explore the great canadian outdoors.
a game of street hockey. the dut the prince was than very good at it but at least they tried. they were better at canoeing. meeting up with local families. living traditional lifestyles. far plunge corner of canada. they tour ad town decide by wildfires earlier this year. they met families that lost their homes. royal tour had its fair share of tradition. but it will be remembered for the emergence of a new and formal royalty. a young couple throwing themselves into local cultures with adoring crowds turning up to watch. the future of the monarchy in this part of the world at least seems assured. we will see how they do in the u.s. they are heading to l.a. tomorrow the tourism commission already is publishing and encurabling people to come to los angeles and to california.
everyone getting very excited. will kate mania hit l.a.? we will have to wait and see. >> you are buttoned up for stampede time in calgary. is that like a thing you will take off and have a cowboy hat and boots and big belt buckle? >> reporter: give me some tips, ali. >> i could have sent you the whole outfit. i have the hat, what it hat town, remember that. you have to get yourself a big belt buckle. there you go. lose. >> lose the tie. >> have some great time out there -- >> he looks good. >> really suits him. looks like he is j.r. from dallas. >> young j.r. >> all right. be sure to follow -- he is like what are you people talking about? >> is this thing on? >> be sure to follow the kook and duchess of cambridge on theirure of los angeles, a special live coverage of the royals in america. all this weekend here on cnn.
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51 minutes past the hour. look at the headlines this morning. casey anthony may be hours away from freedom. she returns to court in florida this morning. many expect the judge to sentence anthony to time already served behind bars for the only count she was found guilty of -- providing false information. cnn learning president obama is seeking $3 trillion to $4 trillion in deficit cuts over the next decade. the news comes as the president meets with leaders from both parties today to discuss raising the debt ceiling. later this afternoon, a hearing for tucson shooting suspect jerrod lee loughner. appeals judges will decide whether or not he should be forcibly medicated in order to stand trial. the u.s. attorney in the case says loughner has been diagnosed as a schizophrenic. federal appeals court says don't ask, don't tell cannot
remain in place and it has issued an order blocking the u.s. military from enforcing its policy on gays serving openly in the military. the pentagon is already in the process of repealing its don't ask, don't tell policy. police in san diego are trying to track down a brazen art thief that walked out of an art gallery with a $200,000 picasso. he was picked up by cameras at a nearby restaurant as he walked into a cab and got away. caught up the day's headlines. "american morning" is back after a quick break.
we are hearing important first time from one of the casey anthony jurors. >> this is juror number three. she says she didn't think an hone was innocent but that there wasn't enough evidence to convict her. >> this is our question of the day. what should happen to casey anthony now? we had responses from you. >> it is interesting response, too. nothing. a jury said not guilty. according to our constitution she commit nod crime. unless she can be charged for another crime that may or may not be related to caylee she should be left alone. >> paul on twitter writes what are you going to do? she is just somebody that beat the system. to give anyone the max on all four misdemeanors is absurd. >> jack on facebook says casey anthony should be prosecuted under federal laws. feds will find her guilty because the guidelines to prove any case is different from state la laws. >> we are going to be talking to the prosecutor, jeff ashton, later at the 8:00 hour as well. lot of criticism in the wake of the verdict. could he have done something differently?
to hear the juror say we didn't think she was innocent but there -- they never explained how she died. >> prosecution from the beginning said it was a dry-bones case. meaning you don't have a lot of evidence to work with in the first case. trying to piece it together is very difficult. that's what -- >> we appreciate your comments. please keep them coming. e-mail, tweet, tellous facebook and we will read more later in the show. >> maybe he should have just taken a knee. dallas cowboys receiver roy williams is suing his ex-girlfriend after he says he mailed her a $76,000 engagement ring. she said no. she has the ring. >> she said no. wrote back no. >> she is wooin miss texas usa brooke daniels. brooke's father told his daughter he didn't want the ring back expecting her to change the mind. except she didn't. michael daniels says he is returning the ring to avoid the legal hassle. >> what's the legality of sending --
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verdict that cleared casey anthony of murder charges. one of the florida jurors is breaking her silence. we have two special reports for you this morning. we begin with david mattingly live in orlando. good morning, david. >> reporter: good morning. casey anthony could go free today but we are learning from one of the jurors that not guilty and innocent could mean two entirely different things. >> we the jury find the defendant not guilty. >> reporter: two days after the surprising verdict we are now getting a better look at what transpired in the courtroom with very players speaking out. and including juror number three who spoke with abc news. >> i mane, there are quite a few people when we got back after the verdict was read we were in tears. >> reporter: jennifer ford said it was horrible decision to have to make. not guilty doesn't mane innocent. ultimately she says it was the prosecution's lack of evidence that led to the jury acquitting casey anthony. >> how did she die? if you are going to charge someone with murder don't you
have no know how they killed someone or have something where, when, why, how? those are important questions. they were not answered. >> reporter: lead prosecutor ashton told beth karas on trutv, his team felt they did everything they could in presenting the case. >> the idea somebody would put duck tape on a child after they were dead to me, just makes so little sense that it left only the possibility of the tape being used to kill caylee. it just didn't -- i didn't think there was any other reasonable explanation. >> reporter: jose baez, lead defense attorney, told abc news that the prosecution's mistake was charging casey anthony with first-degree murder. >> they have the power to charge anyone for any charge that they feel they can prove. so if they are going to bring it, they better be able to prove it. >> reporter: baez also said casey is misunderstood. he is afraid for her safety once she's free. >> i think casey can -- could
have been anything she wanted in this world. and i think there are still plenty of things that casey can do in life. and i think casey can be a productive member of society. >> reporter: the four counts of lying to investigators casey anthony faces are miss meanors but they do carry a maximum penalty of one year each. the judge has that option but ca. it appears that some of the legal wrangling over her case is nts to make casey anthony pay important the high-profile prosecution. >> how do you pay important something -- >> this is a question we all have. martin savage has been looking into this. here is his take on it.
>> reporter: stunned by its loss in the casey anthony trial the state of florida is filing a osts of vestigation and prosecution. in other words, bill her for the state, police and legal work. any money she makes as a result of her fame could go to those costs. in addition, there is a potential civil suit. remember anthony's original claim her daughter was kidnapped by her nanny? who she identified as zenaida gonzalez. the story was a lie and the police tracked down and questioned a woman by the same name. now at woman is planning to sue anthony for defamation. both suits greet anthony as she potentially walks free. the four guilty verdicts could mona total sentence of four years. the big question is would that time be served concurrently, all at the same time, or consecutively? meaning one after another. that's going to depend on h the judge sees these four counts. does he see them as four lies about the same thing?
or four separate acts. >> reporter: even if the judge decided to give her the max time consecutively, she's already served three years. allowing important what in florida is called game time and good behavior and any additional sentence might be a wash. there are potential complicating factors. casey anthony already has a felony conviction. check fraud. and the judge might take that into account. >> prior conviction which occurred during the 31 days, by the way, for the check fraud is going to hurt her. on that score sheet the judge has, that's now going to put her closer to one year than it would to probation. >> reporter: let's say casey gets to walk. it won't be out the front door of the courthouse. a statement from the orange county corrections department says that due to the high-profile nature of the case and intense emotional interest, appropriate measures will be taken to release the acquitted into the community in such a manner so as to preserve the safety of the acquitted individual and the public.
where would casey go? given the way the trial seemed to bitterly divide the anthony family it seems likely she will go live with mom and dad. instead her legal team is likely to whisk her away to points unknown. martin savage. >> the issue would be the lies, casey anthony sent police on a wild goose chase. >> could they recoup that money? we will see when and whether that defamation case goes anywhere. also whether or not she has a source of income. will it be a book deal? will it be -- >> question about the fact she can get a lot of money for her story. it is america, i guess. brings us to the kweft day, what should happen to casey anthony? >> send us a tweet, e-mail, facebook. we will read your comments later in the show. coming up at 8:20, sunny hostin joins with us an interview of jeff ashton, the lead prosecutor in the casey anthony trial. new this morning, one of six marines injured in a military
helicopter crash died. the chopper went down yesterday at camp pendleton in southern california. e five other marines are recovering now at local hospitals. military officials still investigating the cause of that chopper crash. >> a bear mauled and killed a man in the park. the hiker can and the wife surprise ad female bear that perceive ad threat to her sxubs attacked. another nearby group of hikers heard his wife screaming for help and called 911. grizzly attacks are rare inside the park. this was the first deadly bear attack on park grounds since 1986. >> they say there have been a lot more grizzlies. population is has grown ad recommend if you are hiking travel in groups of three and carry bear pepper spray. >>right. montana's governor is blasting exxonmobil after a company pipeline ruptured, and the section of the river runs past 65,000 homes in laurel. the governor says he was assured the company could seal the pipeline in minutes but took
close to an houro shut off the spill. a federal appeals court ordered the u.s. government to immediately stop enforcing its don't, and don't tell policy. the pentagon is already in the process of repealing that law. law that bans gay service members from serving openly. >> brand-new developments in morning in the battle over cutting the nation's debt and raising the debt ceiling. on the same day the president meets with top republicans and democratic leaders at the whe house. cnn is learning the president will agree to $3 trillion to $4 trillion in cuts over the next ten years. that means the president is putting things on the table. significant cuts to med care spending and adjusting the formula that determines social security payouts. let's bring in breaux anianna k. tell us who is coming to the white house and how lit go down. >> this is a big group. eight members of congress. top two democrats, top two republicans in the house and senate. and right now people very much
perceive that the big negotiations are going on between president obama and house speaker john boehner. house speaker boehner will be here along with his deputy eric cantor. just taking a look at their demands. they don't want tax increases but development we he seen since yesterday we saw cantor say they would be open to closing some of the tax loopholes. like the corporate jet tax loophole we heard about over if last week. for oil and gas companies. things like that. and if it is offset by tax cuts. that's kind of a different tack we are hearing from house republicans. house democrats you wil be seeing nancy pelosi, the top democrat in the house as well as her deputies, steny hoyer. while they have said that they want tax increases what they are calling a banced approach to -- spreading out the sacrifice, if you will, they are looking for a bipartisan approach because what's really seen here that this will require democratic and republican votes
to get through congress and certainly democrats don't want to be pulling all of the weight nor n republicans nor do they want on. that was the headline that you mentioned. this sort of really big plan of cuts that the president is now pushing. what we understood is it would take a little more than $2 trillion to push the debt ceiling past the next election. the way the republicans set it up, they would allow the same amount of cuts as the increase in the debt ceiling. we are talking instead about $2 trillion we are talking $2 trillion to $4 trillion the president is pushing for. significant movement from yesterday, guys. >> brianna, thanks very much. we are watching this carefully to see how it unfolds and whether it is a turn in the way these debates have been going between these two sides. thanks, brianna. both of you followed this a lot of talking about the recession and which gender may have been hit harder by it. we talked about how men bore the brunt. some cled it the man session, he session.
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13 minutes past the hour. welcome back. will are new concerns this morning about a new al qaeda threat. u.s. security officials say terrorists are apparently considering a new tactic to take out commercial airliners by finding a new way to use themselves as human bombs. our security watch tlort morning from brian todd. >> reporter: security officials tell cnn of a chilling tactic terrorists might try next. targeting commercial aircraft by surgically implanting explosives for bomb components inside of the bodies of attackers. >> we see this as the latest reiteration of what terrorist groups are trying to do to circumstance vent our security layers and to perhaps defeat our society norms. >> reporter: officials say there is fresh intelligence showing terrorists have a renewed interest in planting bombs in bodies but there is no specific or imminent let. what one u.s. official says man suspected in involvement is
assiri. bomb making mastermind for al qaeda. he is believed to have planned the 2009 plot to kill saudi arabia's interior minister by placing a bomb in the rectal cavity or underwear of his own brother. his brother was killed but the minister escaped. i asked its rememberal's former top aviation security official about surgically illplanted bombs. >> what does this tell you where the terrorists are versus where security officials are? >> we have exhausted the -- capabilities of technology available to us. there is no way we can take the next step after the body scanners to figure out when a person carries out -- carries a device inside of his body. >> reporter: ron and other experts say those full body scanners which we once tested out can see through clothing and can find possible thesis and breast implants and contours but cannot detect bombs inside the body. i spoke with dr. jack, chief trauma surgeon at washington hospital center about how terrorists might try to pull this off.
do you need a hospital to do this? can you do it in a terrorist field camp? what kind of training do you need? >> i think, again, fundamental question will be how well do you want to do it? if you want to do it to 20 people and have 19 of them die in one success you can send on your mission you can do that that easier. if you want to do it well and expect them all to remain steer and i will not cause infection, i think then you are largely going to be talking about a hospital or clinic setting. >> reporter: explosives could be placed in the abdomen or elsewhere. the doctor says an explosive could be implanted in a prosthetic device like a fake hip, a nonsoft advertise indicated implanted bomb may last three to four days before complications sets in. but it is it is a sophisticated surgery and implant it could last weeks, months or longer. experts disagree on whether a bomb inside of a body would need an external detonator to ignite it or if it could be set off with a timer. it is also not clear if the body itself could blunt the impact of an explosion.
brian todd, cnn, washington. >> there is a lot of studying here that's more than maybe i will put a bomb in me. >> a lot of disagreement about how you would detonate that bomb and what the results could be and -- how to detect it makes a new level of scrutiny now. >> very interesting story. here is what else is new this morning. police in san francisco searching for a man that walked into a union square art gallery. >> got to see this. >> walked out -- >> right side of your screen. >> $200,000 picasso under his arm. right side of your screen you will see the suspect walking by there. nearby restaurant caught him on surveillance camera as he just casually walked away with it. >> for showing this video, people should go have breakfast there. $8.95 for the special. i looked it up very funny. >> comes with a children's, you know, coloring pad. >> that was a theft.
walking around, no disguise. >> art galleries have a lot of things on the wall. they have someone behind a desk at the front. if you walk in and perfect uusi >> we have seen picassos walk away from museum. >> usually they have to are a pe -- repel from the ceiling. >> this is not the thomas crowne affair. okay. italian prime minister berlusconi is on trial for having sex with an underaged prostitute and at the same time his doctor gave an interview bragging about his sex drive. berlusconi's doctor said the 74-year-old can have sex six times a week without overdoing it and on the seventh day he should rest. end quote. >> thanks, doc. >> this happened on the same day a court heard stories of raunchy scenes of bur leerlusconi.
>> all these political scandals, we have to have a banner that says if your children are eating breakfast with you now, another politician run amuck story -- >> things you don't want to hear. >> sometimes you forget. satellite tv on in the car, you forget and realize your 5-year-old is back there. quickly shut it off. >> i skipped the bordeleau part. hot air conditions. neighborhoods are being warned to keep an eye on central ac units. thieves are taking off with the unit to sell the copper and aluminum coil inside. >> empty pad. thought we were talking about window units which somebody could haul off. these are the big you don't know fits yes. they say the robbers are pros. they don't leave behind a single screw. she didn't hear anything. >> somebody caged it in. >> chicago? >> yes. a scene from the mummy. we will check out this new report. time lapse report of the great
haboob or dust cloud that turned the phoenix area black. people that live in phoenix for years said never have seen one quite like this. he was trying to tape the sunset when he got this avalanche of clouds. it is nasty. this is much, much different. the dust storm stretched thousands of feet high. grounded flights and knocked out power for thousands people. >> and gave us a new word. i never heard the word haboob. >> arabic for wind. >> dust storm. wind. >> reynolds wolf is following all of this. >> reynolds was than here yesterday. he didn't get to say the word habo haboob. >> no. there are so many opportunities with this. i'm going to hold off. but i'm telling you, it is a spooky thing to see. al si right. it is beyond creepy seeing the giant wall of dust and all this stuff moving towards you. common in parts of north africa. parts of the desert southwest, they have happen every so often.
it is dramatic. caused by the collapsing winds generated by thunderstorms that gust front picks up and the rest is history. speaking of weird and rough weather, we had a share of tonight parts of colorado. adams county, colorado, we have video for threw. it is going to show you, again, damage, we had yesterday. strong winds with that. few funnel clouds, possible tornado in the area, too. you see the storm chasing video. rained very heavy. we might see this plane, this kind of an -- play action part of central and southern plains. portions of the midwest as we go back to the weather maps and show you the reason why. this is your boundary here. lingering across parts of the midwest. that with your daytime heat willing provide for unstable air mass. what this will mean, good chance of rain. isolated thunderstorm. perhaps even a tornado. if you happen to be flying into this area, st. louis, little rock, it is going to be bumpy. as we take a look at your
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good morning. welcome back to "american morning." in 28 hours we will witness history. onboard "atlantis," a crew everyone is calling the final four. >> this is it. i mean, this is bittersweet. john zarrella live from kennedy space center. nostalgia wrapped up in and it excitement for them. all we need now is the weather to cooperate. >> reporter: yeah. that's not looking real good. they were supposed to launch today, they wouldn't be going anywhere. and tomorrow, the forecast is not my better. so will's certainly a good possibility that they will be on the ground tomorrow. weather does look better saturday and sunday. as you can see will's cloud cover around me. you know about a month ago, i had an opportunity to sit down
in houston and to talk with each of the crew members who, as you said have now become known as the final power. >> beautiful shuttle. beautiful day. >> reporter: you guys are going to be the last shuttle flight. what's going lou your mind? going oh, man, you know, why me? >> like being at disneyland late at night and thinking am i going to get to the front of the line before the ride closes? am i going to get to -- get cut off at the end? wow, you know, you squeaked by. then to realize that this, you know, will be the last spags mission ever is -- really felt like an honor to be a part of it. >> we want to make sure we get the job done. and when the job is done, we can look back and reflect and think about where the place in history lies for this final shuttle plight. >> the crew getting their last looks at the space station complex. >> we have more transfer and logistic supplies to send the station than we ever had on any
other mission. we are very, very busy in training and it is very -- very challenging mission you represent thousands of workers for 30 years who poured their heart and soul into the vehicles. >> that's exactly right. >> you are representing them on the final plight. >> it is and i think that's where i feel the most pressure to be able to represent them the way they deserve to be represented and -- finish out the program on a high note with a successful mission and then be able to thank them all afterwards. ideally. >> would you say that the shuttle program then has been a success? >> i think that at times it is the -- hate to use the cliche but sometimes it has been rodney dangerfield of the space program over the years. and it is just -- amount of payload kit take to orbit and come back, seven people on top of that, you know, where else have we seen that in a space
program? >> reporter: now when i sat down with the crew in houston a month ago ferguson told me he said he was bound and determined to be the last person out of the vehicle when they fine lindland back here at the kennedy space center. you mentioned last hour that we would have chicken wings when we got down here if there was a delay. guess what. i have the louisiana space shuttle hot sauce for us. >> nice. >> when you get here. >> all right, john. i will be there in a matter of hours. once the show is finished i'm getting to the airport and get on a flight. you will see me this afternoon. we will be seeing you through the course of the day. 30 years after this shuttle program began. many more years since it was first initiated. "atlantis" flight international space station, nasa's -- hold pop what's going on next to you, christine? a little rocket. love it. this is going to be the 135th and final mission. special live coverage begins tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m.
i love that rocket. kelly, our director, if you would like to do that, we are totely good with that. right here. >> doesn't necessarily have to be on the space shuttle story. >> look, look, look. >> there it is. >> we will start at 6:00 a.m. and anderson cooper will have a special starting at 10:00 a.m. tomorrow. >> dominique strass-kahn case, the prosecutor says he is not going anywhere. the maed insisted the district attorney step aside. good morning. this case has had some major twists. still trying to figure out the status. her not going on drop charges. but the office is under heat here. >> it sure is. the heat is not going away. i mean, the maid's attorney wants a special prosecutor at this point but it is not going to happen. the manhattan district attorney is leading the investigation. and that won't change. in a power-page letter maid's attorney who stands by her accusations that she was assaulted, allegedly, by
dominique strass-kahn, says he hasn't been pair and impartial and charges him with leaking damaging information to the media. he admits his client made mistakes and admitted lies but wants the d.a. to prosecute. >> she wants to get on the stand at trial. despite everything that people have been saying about her, she wants to get on the stand at the criminal trial and testify about what happened in that hotel room. >> the dfshg a.'s office issued a statement defending its investigation and adding, quote, any suggestion this office should be recused is wholly without merit. yesterday the d.a. and defense attorneys huddled over what may happen with the case. many experts say it is falling apart. thanks to serious credibility issues with the maid and she admitted lies about her past. dsk's attorneys call the meeting constructive and say that they are client will not plead guilty
to anything, even p a plea-bargain is offered. will is an i shall eye over what she may have said in a jailhouse interview to a friend the day after the attack. she's paraphrased to say that dsk has a lot of money and she knows what she is doing. her attorney challenges whether that call was correctly translated from her native language. regardless, prosecutors say that they are pressing on for now and insist their investigation is not over. strass-kahn's attorneys say their client isn't guilty of anything. >> what's the latest of a lawsuit by the maid's attorney against "the new york post"? accusing the post of libel, i think. >> the paper is charged with dough faming her by quoting unnamed sources calling her a prostitute. her lawyer says that's an outright lie and is not a prostitute. and the -- they are going to go after the paper. now "the new york post" is defending its story saying it stands by what its reporters have said.
>> lot of twists and turns. translation issue is interesting. it took them a long time to get the translation from her native language to start with. >> that part is not over yet. defense attorney says i still haven't had a chance nor has my client to hear the call played back. it is a dialect she was speaking in and not sure if it was correctly translated by the prosecutor. >> more twists and turns in this case. thanks sushgs zblan-- susan. audio recordings released between the air traffic controllers and pilots. you remember the southwest airplane that -- hole blown in the fuselage. it happened in april. the plane was cruising at 34,000 feet when the roof ripped open near the arizona/california border. pilots knew immediately that there was trouble. listen to this. >> we need the nearest airport. >> would up want to go to palm springs? >> let's make a turn and go --
how far away is yuma from us right now? >> the plane did land safely without major injuries. then ground ad pew planes and inspected them and everything is flying again. >> unbelievable. after nearly two decades of bickering the u.s. and mexico finally completed a deal allowing each country's long haul trucks to travel on the other's highways. it implements a key provision of the free trade agreement. they have been fighting about this forever. american truck drivers and unions concernsed that this means they will lose jobs here. and dash it has been a real sticking point. >> the way it is made -- was for warehousing on either side of the mexican border. the trucks from one country come in and have to warehouse everything and get picked up on the other side. we are looking at injuries at the annual running of the
bulls. it began a few hours ago. the red cross is saying that one runner was already hospitalized and several others took hard pauls and were trampled. there is an iphone app that tells runners apparently the best places to start the run to avoid getting gorge. >> i bet you i cannot get gored without an iphone app. >> stay at the hotel bar the whole time. the duke and duchess of cambridge scheduled to arrive in los angeles tomorrow. we are headed north of the border to catch up with prince william and his bride, catherine, as they wrap up their tour of canada in cowboy country. >> calgary during the stampede. casey anthony could go free today. she will learn her fate in an hour and a half. we are cover thing completely. ♪
course she. >> plourns bruce. they were spotted together at a concert in london on saturday. one report claims she told friends that i think i'm in love. >> what happened to pippa and harry? his old girlfriend. this one is too fast. >> her name is flee. flight attendant. i'm out of my league on this one. go ahead. >> harry's brother and sister-in-law scheduled to arrive in california tomorrow. they are on a lee-day visit to america. wrapping up their tour of canada. they are in calgary. andrew morton joins us live from los angeles. he wrote a book -- new book on the royal couple and famous book on princess diana as well. thanks for joining us this morning. this will be her first trip to the states and royal couple's first trip as husband and wife to america. tell us what you know about the timing and what the visit means. >> well, i broke the story a few weeks ago. my website.
basically they are going to fly the flag for britain and pass around the hat for their various charities. prince william is going to play the polo match. they are going to a a new media conference and they are hosting a black tie dinner for the film industry. >> for british film industry. they are coming all this way across the pond and they are only going to be in california. why is that? >> california traditionally royal family goes, queen's visited and -- prince andrew's visit a pew years ago. and -- it is a place where they would like to raise money for their charities also because it is -- very affluent and influential state. they can get hold of moverers and shakers will. >> i got you. they are going to be meeting saturday with a bunch of celebs at the gala. meeting with tom hanks and nicole kidman will be there as well. >> new film desperate to sell as
well. >> right. i mean -- lot has been made of this that they are down to earth and really mingle well with people and are a sensation wherever they go. now they are going to be rubbing elbows with hollywood's royalty. how do you expect that interaction to go? >> it is very interesting. both william and catherine said they didn't want to be celebrities. but i'm afraid they are being forced into it. canada tremendous successful. i think that even in hollywood, even these -- big stars in the hollywood film will be. >> you wrote in your book, very interesting, lot of the comparisons made between diana and catherine. you say she is a very different girl, that catherine is somebody who is a lot more savvy and also had a very different relationship, eight-year courtship, compared to the short courtship with prince charles and diana. how else is catherine different despite these comparisons? >> well, i mean, whennian are a
did her first tour she was overwhelmed. she sat in her car and crying her eyes out and want toad back home. shwas in as y she was in australia. she was a young woman, naive. she went back a very seasoned professional. it seems to me catherine already seems like a woman to the palace. she has taken it in stride and seems to be loving it. she's always given the impression of somebody like a swan. however near russ is you are feeling underneath, she always seems very poised and in control. >> she certainly held it together on her wedding day. lot of people marvelled at how she looked calmer than william even. why do they refer catherine and pippa as the wisteria sisters? >> that's a phrase coined by snobs bible in britain saying that they were fragrant social climbing and very delicate.
ambitious for their future. hence the conversations and speculation about pippa and prince harry. it seems, as you mentioned earlier, with flee around, put that in pippa's ear. month hollywood ending between the bestman and maid of honor. >> is there anything to that romance or any time they show up publicly with anybody they are a couple? >> that's exactly it. heiry now the world's most eligible bachelor. number of people i spoke to said we want him to stay eligible because he's so -- such great fun. he's playing the field. he sent joying him self all right. deserves that, i'm sure. andrew morton, thanks so much. out and about with a new book. "william and catherine their story." thanks so much for joining us this morning. great to get your take. be sure to follow the duke and
duchess of cambridge on their tour of los angeles. coverage this weekend. >> why didn't you ask why she's called flee? >> it has to do with her name. florence something or something. >> oh. excellent. he has a lot of information. i couldn't even concentrate. >> weigh will find that out for you. i just wanted to know why she is called flee. it is going to bug me. still to come, we will find out why she is called flee. that's not our question of the day. the question of the day has to do with the story that just keeps on developing. casey anthony. we want to know what you think should happen to her now. she will have her sentencing hearing. >> 9:00 this morning. many say that it is -- lot of seasoned prosecutors and defense attorneys say it will be time served. >> which means she may walk out of prison. >> some kind of a check conviction. the judge can look at had a when he makes his decision. >> that's right. we will see because, again, that could be 18 months for the check cashing.
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does not mean innocent. >> that's right. brings us to our question of the day. what should happen to casey anthony now? >> jordan says on facebook i'm concerned that a morbidly curious public will allow casey to capitalize off the death of her daughter. allowing her to make even a single cent from a book or movie deal is, in my opinion, deplorable. i know that personally i will boycott any publishers or advertisers that attempt to make money off casey's infamy. >> paul on facebook says i think she should be set free. she has already served three years. ask yourself this question if this was me, what would i want to happen to me? >> joseph on our blog says they should pursue any other legal actions against her for lying. and we, the people, should boycott any books, interviews or any other money making endeavor she embarks in. >> keep your comments coming. tell us on facebook or accepted us a tweet and read more of your thoughts later.
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dominique strauss-kahn saying he will not accept any plea bargain. i'm kiran chetry. his lawyer saying the former imf chief will not plead guilty to anything. we have new developments next. debating a debt deal. i'm ali velshi. president obama and republicans are said to be moving closer to a deal that could include changes to social security and medicare. what it could mean for you on this "american morning." ♪ good morning, everyone! it's thursday, july 7th. so much to talk about. big important day on capitol hill with the president and negotiators for a deal on the debt. the debt ceiling and also the casey anthony sentencing is just an hour from now. >> that's right. in one hour we will be live in that courtroom again. casey anthony will be back there as well to hear whether or not she will go free or if she will remain behind bars. in the meantime we are hearing for the first time from one of the jurors in the actual jury room in the deliberations
who says the not guilty verdict made them sick to their stomachs but prosecutors left them no choice. cnn's david mattingly live for us in orlando. what is the story from the jurors, david? >> reporter: ali, this jury was able to reach a not guilty verdict in a matter of hours, not days. but now we are finding out just how hard it was for them to make that decision. >> we, the jury, find the defendant not guilty. >> reporter: two days after the surprising verdict, we're now getting a better look at what transpired in the courtroom with various players speaking out. including juror number three who spoke with abc news. >> i mean, quite a few people who got back we were in tears. >> reporter: jennifer ford said it was a horrible decision not have to to make that not guilty doesn't mean innocent but ultimately she says it was the prosecution's lack of evidence that led to the jury acquitting casey anthony. >> how did she die? if you're going to charge her with murder, don't you have to
know how they killed someone or how they killed someone or have some information where, when, how? though is important questions and were not answered. >> reporter: on cnn sister network trutv, his team felt they did everything they could in presenting the case. >> the idea somebody to put duct tape on a child after they were did dead so me made so little sense that it left only the possibility of the tape being used to kill caylee. i just didn't think there was any other reasonable explanation. >> reporter: jose baez, lead defense attorney, told abc news the prosecution's mistake was charging casey anthony with first-degree murder. >> they have the power to charge anyone for any charge that they feel they can prove, so if they are going to bring it, they better be able to prove it. >> reporter: baez also said casey is misunderstood and that he is afraid for her safety once she is free. >> i think casey could have been
anything she wanted in this world. and i think there's still plenty of things that casey can do in life and i think casey can be a productive member of society. >> reporter: even if casey anthony does go free today, she will not be able to get away from having problems with the state of florida. the state is going to be asking her to come up with money to pay for the investigation in this case to compensate the orange county sheriff's department for the costs that they had to put out in investigating this case. they don't know how much that is right now, ali, but they have to hold a hearing later to determine just what the bill is going to be. >> of course, that is some kind -- some speculation here that if she is able to profit from her story, they are going to try and pin her down for having lied to investigators,
making them chase after this woman. interesting to see. >> hold her responsible for those costs that she lied that led to -- >> she sent police looking for this other woman. unorthodoxed. david we will stay for you throughout the day as the story begins to unfold. >> cnn will carry the sentencing live. if you're jailed for a conviction, you pay the state back for the cost of your jailing. >> how can you bill her if she wasn't convicted? she was convicted of lying to -- >> of the misdemeanor. how they would actually parse that out monetarily is another big question as well. we want to know what you think. what should happen to casey anthony now? e-mail us. give us a tweet. you can reach us on facebook, on our blog as well and we will read some of your comments a little bit later in the show. this legal wrangling is something we will continue to follow with casey anthony. story of dominique strauss-kahn as well. this is a new development in
this case. susan candiotti who has been following is very closely and joins us now. we are hearing new information from dominique strauss-kahn's attorneys. >> not only that but from the lawyer that represents his lead accuser. he wants the district attorney to get off the case and appoint a special prosecutor. the maid's attorney wants this to happen but the district attorney says it's not. the manhattan d.a. is leading the investigation and he says that's not going to change. in a letter to the d.a., the maid's lawyer accuses the d.a. of being unfair, not being impartial and charges him with leaking damaging and false information about his client to the media. the d.a.'s office even issued a statement defending its investigation, adding, quote, any suggestion that this office should be recused is wholly without merit. in the meantime, the maid's attorney is pressing ahead with a lawsuit accusing the "new york post" libel with quoting unnamed sources who called the maid a prostitute.
"the post" says it stands by its story, but the maid's lawyer calls this all a malicious lie. >> it is not just about her. but it's about any woman who is raped or sexually assaulted and they come forward. they should not be called a prostitute. and so the victim in this case is standing up for her rights and standing up for her dignity. >> yesterday, the d.a. and defense attorneys huddled over what may happen with the case. many experts say it's fall apart thanks to serious credibility issues with the maid. she has admitted lies about her past, for example. dsk attorneys called the meeting constructive. they also tell cnn that strauss-kahn will not accept any kind of plea bargain, if offered and he will not plead guilty to anything. so it's not over yet. >> one of the things also is the
jailhouse phone call. that was apparently what began to unravel the investigators's case, when it appeared that this woman is saying i'm fine, the accuser was saying maybe there is money to be made allege lid. >> that is a key element to what the problems have been here. however, the attorneys are saying that they have problems with the translation that was not done in english. the jailhouse call was in a dialect from her native guinea. they said we want to be able to listen to that. so far, the district attorney has not allowed them to hear it. they said they are not ready with the full transcript yet, translation. the defense lawyers for -- rather, the attorney representing the maid says it's not fair. we should get a crack at hearing exactly what this says before the d.a. makes any final determination about what to do. all we know at this point, so far that the next hearing is scheduled for july 18th, but who knows whether the prosecutors have agreed to meet again with the dsk lawyers because --
>> they could also decide to drop the case in the meantime. >> they certainly could in the meantime. >> i think july 3rd is an important date. you have to file your papers if you're running for papers in france. there were was speculation when this started to break it would fall apart so quickly he might be able to do that. >> a lot of people are saying it's too late, regardless, it's just not going to happen. >> right. susan, thank you so much. >> you bet. any time a federal appeals court has ordered the federal government to stop enforcing its don't ask and don't tell process. the pentagon is in the process of appealing the law that bans gays from serving openly in the military. on cnn security watch, terrorists targeting commercial airliners by having explosives surgically implanted in their own bodies. they say they have fresh intelligence terrorists are using touch a plan to use humans as bombs. while no specific threat, we are told a key suspect in these
efforts is abraham sairi a bomb maker for al qaeda in the arabian peninsula which is the yemeni group. >> has the latest iteration or the evolution of what terrorist groups are trying to do to circumvent our security later and defeat our societal norms. a terrifying story in yellowstone. a hiker mauled and killed by a grizzly bear. a hiker and his wife surprised a female bear and her cubs and' taked. they heard the wife screaming for help and called 911. the woman reportedly told park officials she survived despite chased by the bear and lifted in the air by her backpack.
the first deadly bear attack on these park grounds since 1986. out of the gate, we have injuries at the running of the bulls. the annual festival started a few hours ago ago in pamplona, spain. one was hospitalized and several others took hard falls and were trampled. one programming note. coming up in about 20 minutes we will be talking to engineer ashton, lead prosecutor in the casey anthony trial, what went wrong. the juror who said i'm not saying she is innocent, yet still made that verdict, that not guilty verdict. we will hear from him. >> love to hear what he has to say and his feelings are right now. medicare and social security cuts apparently on the table. we will go to capitol hill to have a live talk with democrat and a republican on both sides of this issue and troy to get answers from them. great video you must see from the swedish open. the world's number one one tennis player serve from matchpoint when a cell phone
starts to ring and you'll love what happens next. the world's first flying car is now ready and approved for the road. or the air. so when will it hit a car near you? we don't mean it like that. >> car lot, let's call it car lot. >> let's be on the safe side and call it that. 10 minutes past the hour. we inspect your air filter, cabin filter. there's bugs, leaves, lint, crud. you'll be breathing that. i do believe it's part of a locust. make sure your alignments good. your brakes are good. you've got all sorts different things that you check off. your fluid levels. pretty much everything you could need. it gets done. it gets done quickly. and it gets done correctly. the works fuel saver package, just $29.95 or less after rebate. only at your ford dealer. you're a doctor. you're a car doctor. maybe a car doctor.
a little britney to motivate everybody in washington to get up and get work done. 75 degrees which is largely perfect. later on muggy and 95 and thunderstorms but here is the good news. the white house is air-conditioned! >> funny. you said motivation. will they get something done. >> it could be a potential turn in the battle of raising the
debt ceiling. cnn is learning that president obama will agree to $3 or $4 trillion in cuts over the next decade, a move requiring some cuts to medicare and social security. this news coming hours before leaders before both parties go to the white house for what really is a high stakes meeting with the president. joining me to talk about this now is democratic congressman chris van holland. the ranking member of the house budget committee. he is a democrat. congressman van holland, thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> do you know anything about the reports the president is prepared to talk about medicare and social security with the republicans in exchange for their support to raise the debt ceiling? >> ali, i do not know the details on this. i saw the reports and will hear a lot more from the president when he meets with tbipartisan group at the white house. i know he is looking at a deal that gets $4 trillion in deficit
reductions along the lines from the bipartisan simpson-bolles commission. i do not know what exactly the president is referring to on social security. i should be clear. congressional democrats are not going to support something that seeks to support the budget on the backs of social security beneficiaries. they want to strengthen social security but on the backs of social security would be unacceptable and i'm pretty wst that is not what the president is referring to. >> let's set the stage what kind of things you and congressional democrats with respect to social security might support. if we support an increase in the age when you get social security for people who are younger at this point so it phases in over some time. is that the kind of thing we could be talking about? >> i think that would meet with
a lot of resistance for this reason. it's easy for people who make a living like you and i do talking to retire a little bit later. it's a lot harder for someone who has been doing back-breaking work. what we could do -- this is something part of the design of the existing system -- you don't take away the option to retire early but if you do retire early you do get a lower benefit over a period of time. that is part of the design in the current system. you could build on that. there are other options that we have discussed, for example, lifting the cap on the payroll tax. that would bring in more revenue so ways to strength social security. obviously, an important issue and not to do that as way to balance the rest of the budget. >> part of the reports coming out the president would agree to or push for $3 to $4 trillion in cuts over the next ten years. where do congressional democrats stand on that? >> well, the president's proposal that he laid out just a short time ago at george washington university called for
about a $4 trillion in cuts over 12 years. and while i think you'd find people disagreeing with some of the details, the overall architecture of that proposal is something that certainly i could support because it was a balanced approach. it said we got to close a lot of these corporate tax loopholes. we got to ask the folks at the very top to go back to paying what they did under -- during the clinton administration but it called for significant cuts which we are going to have to do on decisionary spending. the president was clear while we made cuts on the domestic side of the ledger we have to look at pentagon spending and some the bipartisan commission also recommends. >> congressman, you're a leader in the democratic party. so, at some point, we know that republicans have dug in about nothing that looks, smells, or walks like a tax increase or an elimination of a credit. you do have to compromise and you will probably tell me that you and congressional democrats have, but the bottom line is
what can you do to bring hard line fiscal conservatives over who will not get off of that mantra? >> that is exactly the question i think all of us need to ask and i, frankly, do not have a good answer for you. because what you've got right now, is a dynamic in the republican party, especially with the tea party movement, that says that we're not going to support closing corporate tax loopholes even for the purpose of deficit reduction. and until the republican party is more worried about the deficit than they are about grover norquist, maybe the ice is beginning to break a little bit there. i haven't -- you know, there were some signs yesterday although you have to see it to believe it. i need to see an actual proposal. >> representative chris van holland and ranking member of the house budget committee, thank you for joining us. i hope the ice starts to break. >> good to be with you.
>> really interesting he says he doesn't think it would really fly raising the retirement age. because some people that's not going to be an option, especially if you have an economy not growing robustly. >> we don't have a big, warm hug going on in washington right now. >> means testing people who make more money wouldn't get as much from social security. that might not fly with people who have been paying into the system. no matter how you tweak or tamper or reform social security and medicare people will be screaming. in 20 minutes we get the republican side when we talk to representative paul ryan. an architect of the way forward here for many republicans on how they want to get our finances in order in this country. >> we also will be speaking to the lead prosecutor in the casey anthony case jeff ashton and get his take and reaction to the jurors say i didn't say she was innocent but i don't think they proved their case. >> i don't know what he would have done differently. 20/20 hindsight but i want to
know what he would have done differently in this case. >> absolutely. history may have to wait for a few thunderstorms to pass at the kennedy space center tomorrow morning. it's set to take off on friday but now 70% chance bad weather will force the launch to be postponed. alternate launch windows in place for saturday and sunday if necessary. 30 years after the space shuttle program began "atlantis" flight to the space station 135th and final mission. ali likes it. special live coverage begins tomorrow at 6:00 a.m. >> i don't know how it doesn't burn a hole. >> in my suit? magic of television. >> i want this thing to take off but the longer it doesn't take off the more times we have a chance to run that thing. reynolds wolf is in the weather center. >> i love the launch. i really do. it's a beautiful thing to see. hopefully, the weather is going
to cooperate for tomorrow. right now, it doesn't look too favorable. hopefully, things will change. it is a hit or miss things. talking about florida, sunshine state and thunderstorms. could see delays there. for your own launch, atlanta, raleigh, miami trying to make a trip out, you might have delays due to thunderstorms. same deal in memphis and st. louis and salt lake city possibly a thunder boomer. low clouds and the fog may stick around in san francisco but oakland maybe not a problem for you. severe chance of thunderstorms and large hail developing across mid sec pun talking about potential like dime-sized hail and into the much bigger than that. speaking of big. see something unusual. skip weather and go into sport very quickly. i want t show t interesting video. not something you want to see but also something you want to hear. as we go right to -- talking about the swedish open that happened yesterday. talking about alize cornet.
>> looking around the crowd! and the phone of alize cornet! wow. never seen that before! >> can you believe that? alize cornet waiting for her opponent to serve. her cell phone goes off the middle of the match and she goes on to lose the match. timing not so good. >> it broke up the tension. >> look at her smile. >> mom, i'm working. i told you! >> a welcome distraction. no idea who the phone call was but that is the reason why you have the vibrate option on your cell phone. >> put up your hand. anybody here who has had a phone ring while they are live on tv? kiran? >> accidentally, we were holding up my phone and my number flashed on the screen. >> you had to change your number after that, i remember that. >> i did.
>> happens to us all. >> take care. >> good to see you. coming up at 8:30, jeff ashton will join us live 37 the lead prosecutor in the casey anthony trial. get his take on what he thought about the jurors said. i don't believe she is innocent but the case wasn't proven. also some interesting comments from jose baez, casey anthony's attorney, what her life might be like now. hear from the prosecutor coming up. who are the highest paid actresses in hollywood? i say actresses because the highest paid is a tie. show you who is raking it in. new iphone, apple unveils its latest and greatest cell phone this fall, we're told. 23 minutes after the hour. one log in lets you monitor all of your balances and transfer between accounts, so your money can move as fast as you do. check out your portfolio, track the market with live updates. and execute trades anywhere and anytime the inspiration hits you. even deposit checks right from your phone. just take a picture, hit deposit and you're done.
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31 minutes past of the hour now. casey anthony back in court in 30 minutes to decide or to find out whether or not the judge will decide whether or not she gets to leave or has to stay behind bars. one juror in the meantime is talking about why they couldn't find her guilty of murdering her daughter. that juror told abc news that all of the jurors in that room were stick to their stomachs about the not guilty verdict, but they felt they had no choice. let's listen. >> there wasn't enough evidence, there wasn't anything strong enough to say exactly -- i don't think anyone in america could tell us exactly how she died, if you put even just 12 jurors? one room with a piece of paper write down how caylee died, nobody knows. we would all be guessing. we have no idea. >> joining us is the lead prosecutor in the case, the casey anthony trial, jeff ashson and sunny hostin a former federal prosecutor is here herself as well. to hear from the jennifer ford, the juror who came forward, she clearly indicated she didn't feel you guys proved your case.
how hard is that to hear? >> well, it's kind of what i figured from the verdict. you know, the evidence was what it was. and i said from the very beginning of this case that if the jury could look at the photograph and i know that the public hasn't seen the photograph in an unblurred fashion, but -- >> the remains? >> the remains and the duct tape and if the jury looked at that photograph and couldn't see what i saw, couldn't determine from that photograph how she died, then so be it. sha the jury system. >> the jury went on to say they were stick to their stomach after voting to acquit and she said i didn't say she he wasn't innocent. if you can't prove what the crime is you can't prove what the punishment would be. our own jeffrey toobin said perhaps the murder one and death penalty case there was overreaching that maybe you guys were too in love with the case or too close to the case. should you have gone for something other than murder one? >> if what we thought she did
is, in fact, what the jury believed she did, it was an appropriate case for the jury to make that decision. they were given lesser charges so i would hope -- i mean, they are instructed that sentencing is not a part of what they are supposed to consider in the guilt phase. if they did, then they shouldn't have. >> they misread the scrubbi instructions? >> they shouldn't have been even considering punishment during the guilt phase. but also they were given lesser offenses. you know, i don't think that -- i hope that is not what they based it on because if it was, then they did the wrong thing. i mean, i can respect if they disagree with our facts, that's fine. but if they did it based upon the penalty, then they didn't follow the law. >> that's interesting. sunny has followed the case. a former federal prosecutor and tried dozens of cases. you watched every moment of this as well. >> i did. >> the other interesting thing was that other theory was that floating out there. >> there is sort of a prevailing
theory on facebook and that casey anthony used chloroform as a baby-sitter and perhaps overdosed caylee on this chloroform and staged it to like the nanny theory. is that an atheory your office considered? >> we consider the fact that people might thought that. we discussed with the juror alternate thea alternate theorys. we did think about that. that wasn't our theory, but we realized people might think that so we basically, told them even if you think that, it's still first-degree murder and here is why. >> another question. i'm a former prosecutor. >> right. >> i thought you tried this case brilliantly. >> thank you very much. >> i really do. but i thought that you were perhaps going to have one of those o.j. case moments with the
gloves not fitting when you wanted this jury to smell the cans of death, right? because you had carpet samples that you felt smelled like death and i've smelled death and you have smelled death but perhaps none of the jurors smelled death. what if they opened up those cans and they didn't smell anything? >> we opened them first. >> okay. that wasn't going to happen to you? >> no. we were not going to risk that. a couple of weeks before the trial started, i had one of the csi investigators who had experienced it originally, you know, open it up and smell it and he said, yep, smells the same. i just, to be safe, i smelled it myself. >> do you think if the judge would have allowed that because he did not that could have turned the case? >> no, it doesn't appear from what i've heard that that was a key factor. none of the jurors have really addressed the issue of the car and whether they thought a body was in the car. i would be interested to see what they thought about that. i assume they could have thought there was a body in the car but still said, you know, there were other possibilities. >> i want to ask you about a
couple of other things. this was a real life drama that played out. your every move was watched and casey's every move was watched and the defense attorneys, every move was watched. one of the things point out when baez said that man laughing over there and pointed to you and you were. you did appear to be either chuckling or laughing. perhaps -- actually let me ask you. why were you laughing when he was doing his closing argument? >> it was the end of a long trial and we were all tired. i was laughing because i thought i was amused by what he was doing. i shouldn't have been. but it was just that in the moment of his performance, i just found it amusing, but i shouldn't have shown that. >> do you think you lost the jury perhaps in that moment? >> no. from everything i've heard, it appears that the jury decided what they decided simply based on the facts as they saw them and i can't imagine that anything that either one of us did affected that much. >> what about the relationship between you and jose baez?
i've been in the courtroom and you're adversaries, right? do you like each other? do you like him? >> i don't think we will be vacationing together any time in the near future. you know, you get in the heat of things. there were certain things that went on in the three-year span of the case that i didn't appreciate, you know? we were attacked personally a lot. >> right. >> and, you know, there are things you leave in the courtroom and there are things you don't. how i'll feel about that a week from now, we will -- ask me a week from now. but, you know, there was a lot of things that went on that shouldn't have gone on. i'll just leave it at that. >> 20 minutes from now, casey anthony will be standing before this judge again. she could get out. do you believe she is a danger to society? >> only if she has any more children, honel. >> she indicated in some letters she would like to have children. she had a dream she had children and she considered adoption.
what do you think about that? >> i would -- i would hope that she doesn't -- doesn't try to parent again. >> you still believe in your heart of hearts that casey anthony killed caylee anthony? >> that is the great thing. as you know by being a prosecutor, you don't -- you don't prosecute cases you don't believe in. and so we started this case because we believed in what we thought she did. though, we respect the jury's verdict, it was their decision to make, it doesn't change how we feel about the facts and what they meant. >> it was great for you to join us and to you to us. i know you're retiring now. >> yes. >> congratulations on that. a well deserved break after these past three plus years. >> it's been a trip. thank you very much. >> thanks for being here and, sunny, thank you for your input. can president obama jump-start a deal today and any way republicans and democrats are going to be able to hammer out a deal to agree on any of this? we spoke to a democrat earlier. up next we will talk to a key
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washington, d.c. this morning. partly cloudy right now. 78 degrees. thunderstorms and 95. the fireworks begin at 11:00. no, kidding. that is when we will talk about the debt ceiling with the president and key members of negotiators on capitol hill. some brand-new movement this morning in the battle over cutting the nation's debt. and then raising the debt ceiling. so the u.s. can borrow money and keep the lights on as the treasury secretary says. the cnn learning that president obama wants $3 to $4 trillion in deficit cuts the next decade. it's a move that would force democrats to accept some major changes. major changes to medicare and social security. earlier we spoke to democratic congressman chris van holland. we want to get a pest from the republican side. joining me is republican qongman paul ryan, the chairman of the house budget committee. you have been sort of an architect even before it was
cool among the tea party movement to be talking about getting our financial house in order. you have been doing this for years. the moment is here. the moment is definitely here. critical day at the white house to get this deal done. this morning, everyone wants to know is the white house going to be willing to push for some sort of changes to medicare and social security? what would be palatable to you? what do they need to tell you to get republicans on board for a deal? >> i'm not going to be at that meeting. that is where our elected leaders go. with all due respect, i don't think it's a good idea to negotiate through the media we will or will not exceed or accept. the he coo is we get this debt and deficit under control is the whole point here, right? it's been 800 days, starting tomorrow, since the senate even bothered to pass a duting so congress hasn't been budgeting at all. the only opportunity to get this under control is this debt limit negotiation. i wouldn't put too much into just today's meeting. i would describe we are enter
ting mature phase of this. we are getting the leaders, the speaker, the president how to do these things. yes, our entitlement programs. you mentioned medicare and social security and the biggest drivers of our debt in the future. if you want to be honest about dealing with our debt long term and medium term you have to deal with our entitlements and spending is the root cause of our problem. we are saying for every dollar of increase in debt limit cut a dollar in spending. >> i tell you americans are maddened by the process. they are hearing all of this dire talk. >> so are we. >> aren't we all? all of this dire talk what is going to happen if we don't raise the debt ceiling and saying, wait a minute, congress already wrote these checks and did this spending and now you say we are not paying these bills. that is what people get fundamentally irritated with. $6 trillion as you proposed over ten yerks major changes how americans live their lives and
so why people want to know what is accepted for scoocial securi. what is tax rates going to look like? >> i can't tell you the answer because i don't know. my point is if you change policies now, get government to reorient its policy you don't have to provide disruptions to people and their lives. it doesn't change medicare benefits for anybody above 55. the problem if you keep kicking the can down the road then you will end up cutting current seniors. that's what we have been trying to avoid. social security same for that. i have yet to see a plan introduced into congress that affects the benefits for current seniors. i don't know what is on the table at this meeting today. >> yeah. >> but -- but i got to tell you if you get ahead of this debt situation now we can do it on our own terms and keep the commitment to current seniors and change it for younger people like ourselves so we have these programs when we retire. the sooner we deal with this
thing the better off we are. the less severe disruptions occur in people's lives. the reason we're at this point is we hit our nation's credit limit. >> right. >> because of past spending. we got to deal with future spending so it doesn't happen again and what we are trying to do. >> you understand capital markets. i mean, what happens if republicans are imboldened by the power they apparently have and the leverage in this situation that we don't resolve this debt ceiling thing right away? could you see the future where we are paying more -- spending more money because we have defaulted on something? >> because interest rates go up? >> yeah. >> default is not in our interest. default is not our game plan. at the same time, if you simply raise the debt limit without showing any -- any discipline on spending, i would argue the credit markets will come at us that way as well. i think the credit markets will get us if we default and if we don't cut spending. the obvious answer is get a good down payment on debt and deficits. >> some in the bond market
saying the reason their market hasn't gone crazy they know a new serious era of fiscal discipline in washington getting there an the politics of it. >> starting to hear some refreshing talk. some of us have been in the wilderness for a while and good to hear actual realization will the dire fiscal problem we have today. >> the "the wall street journal" said this week, maybe we should cut loopholes and make a more simple corporate tax system. i mean, is that a way to go? i mean, loopholes -- that is what we need to do? >> i agree with that. that is in our budget. we say let's get rid of the loopholes and lower taxes for everybody. general electric paying nothing and u.p.s. paying 4% and how fair is that? get rid of the loopholes and grow the economy and create jobs. this is all about creating jobs and getting this debt under control. >> yeah. i'm telling you, a lot of ploks involved to politics involved as well.
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let's go right to florida. live pictures now of the courtroom casey anthony's parents just went in and sitting down and casey anthony has just gone into the courtroom. those are her parents. there she is speaking to one of her lawyers. this is of course the sentencing which is going to start inside of the next probably the next ten minutes. >> she was only found guilty of four counts of lying to police in the investigation of caylee's death. her daughter's death. and the sentencing, many say, could just be time served. meaning she could walk out a free woman in less than 10 minutes. david mattingly is live outside of the courthouse in orlando. casey looks a little nervous chewing her fingernails and talking to one of her defense attorneys. what are we looking at here, david? >> reporter: we are looking at someone who, in my eyes, appears a little bit more relaxed than we have seen her lately. she has her hair down. before, she was wearing it up
and looking a lot more conservative. here she does seem to be more relaxed and always talks to her attorneys when she comes in. we have seen her animated in this in the past and even agitated. today she seems very calm and just prepared for whatever might happen today. when we look at these charges, we hear they are misdemeanors and that they carry a penalty of one year maximum in jail and a thousand dollar fine maximum to go along with each one of these counts. so it's potentially she could be looking at four more years in jail. now, let's look at what she is actually charged with doing. looking at the lies that she told to investigators. one of them, she just flat out lied that caylee was missing. that was the first of many lies to come. the next one was that while police were trying to find caylee, she claimed that caylee had called her. so extending this deception a little bit further. she also lied to them about having a job at universal
studios. she went so far, after she was questioned about this, and university studio came back and said we have no record of her working here. she actually walked on to the lot with investigators allegedly to show them where she worked and she walked on the property with them and finally got to a point where she said, all right, i don't work here. it was that sort of elaborate type lying we are looking at that produced these charges. and, finally, one was that caylee was dropped off with a nanny zenaida gonzalez. investigators looked into that as well and found out that was completely fictitious. a nanny was completely made up. in fact, they found another woman with that same name who had nothing to do with this. that woman, consequently, is now planning to sue casey anthony for defamation. that is what is behind all all of the lies, the four counts of lying that we are going to hear about today.
>> there is this conversation being had about the state and the firm that did a lot of this investigation, wanting to recover money from casey anthony if she profits from a book or a movie. tell us a bit about this. >> reporter: that's right. who knows how much money that might be. there was a lot of time, a lot of manpower and a lot of resources went into this as they first of all, were investigating a missing persons case and then a long running murder case. >> david, one other question people are wondering. what happens -- i know you said it could be up to four years if it's one year for each count, although as we said, jeff toobin and others saying rare for this if it's a misdemeanor. if she walks out of the courtroom today, where does she go? >> reporter: that's another big question. she might have more problems out here on the outside than she does sitting in jail. there is a concern about her safety. already the officials at the jail here have put out a press
release saying we are not going tell you when, where, or how she is going to get out just out of concern because of the intense emotional scrutiny this case has been getting. there has been absolutely no discussion about where she might go or what she might do after this happens. but this case has been intensely watched here in orlando, even more so than it it has around the country and other parts of the world. there are ten, possibly hundreds of thousands of people that would recognize her on sight and have a very strong opinion about her guilt or innocence in this case. >> david mattingly, don't go anywhere! anyone, don't go anywhere. we will be back in a second. the casey anthony sentencing starts in three minutes. we will have it live for you. 56 minutes after the hour. i'll tell you what -- when we stop to fill it up. ♪ ♪
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with her parents sentencing about to begin in a couple of minutes. we will stay with us live on cnn until you get the full story what is happening. >> a relaxed casey anthony there getting ready to find out her fate there. >> she could walk. she could be out in less than half an hour. all eyes on the courtroom in florida. kyra phillips and "cnn newsroom" start right now. >> thanks, guys. it's 9:00 a.m. on the east coast and 6:00 a.m. on the west coast. i'm kyra phillips. we're following the latest on the casey anthony case. you're looking at live pictures from the